{"product_id":"24-whats-it-really-like-to-ramble-incoherently-for-a-while-andrew-roy","title":"#24 What's it Really Like to Ramble incoherently for a while: Andrew Roy","description":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ciframe src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/5lCxk17pQKeksfCpmQlndK?si=pibpspLCTlCpLbyUShnR2g_owutm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\"\u003e\u003c\/iframe\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eThis is me, talking to the wise and wonderful and rambling...me. Glad you can listen in. Each week, I typically sit down with world-class bartenders, winemakers, programmers, poets, and the occasional wildcard, to talk shop, life, craft, failure, redemption, and what it actually takes to serve others without losing yourself in the process.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eSee you all at \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/meadstampede.org\/\" class=\"e-91090-text-link e-91090-baseline e-91090-overflow-wrap-anywhere encore-internal-color-text-announcement e-91090-text-link--use-focus sc-fqujGp dQOGun\" data-encore-id=\"textLink\" data-slate-node=\"element\" data-slate-inline=\"true\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003emead stampede\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e next year!\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e \u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cstrong\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eService starts now.\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/strong\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eI talk mostly to people in and around the service industry space. I'm looking to hear from the people I wish I could have talked to when I was coming up in restaurants. Said another way: I am trying to make sense of this wild, beautiful mess of a life, and help others that are feeling similarly confused and\/or lost. \u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eClassic Episodes You May Like:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e-#10:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6pd7cvCIaRA8Jnf3Tmqkb0?si=KRiwL3c-Th65REAQT_WymA\" class=\"e-91090-text-link e-91090-baseline e-91090-overflow-wrap-anywhere encore-internal-color-text-announcement e-91090-text-link--use-focus sc-fqujGp dQOGun\" data-encore-id=\"textLink\" data-slate-node=\"element\" data-slate-inline=\"true\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nat Harry, cocktail expert!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e-#14:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2UyoDkhu3lEIWF7KLXJG5w?si=ZsVGlX0ITeKzWu0YffBsug\" class=\"e-91090-text-link e-91090-baseline e-91090-overflow-wrap-anywhere encore-internal-color-text-announcement e-91090-text-link--use-focus sc-fqujGp dQOGun\" data-encore-id=\"textLink\" data-slate-node=\"element\" data-slate-inline=\"true\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Dr. Shalini Bahl, mindful marketing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e-#22:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/1Mh54DubElMuAvtzEu7WIR?si=qXk5p6a1QlmDnVJqWIcl4g\" class=\"e-91090-text-link e-91090-baseline e-91090-overflow-wrap-anywhere encore-internal-color-text-announcement e-91090-text-link--use-focus sc-fqujGp dQOGun\" data-encore-id=\"textLink\" data-slate-node=\"element\" data-slate-inline=\"true\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e⁠Doug Frost MW MS⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003e-#23:\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003ca href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/29aTLdlbZvkDxERXPHyYV3?si=IJ04bwjoTiaTNsE8ZoMb2g\" class=\"e-91090-text-link e-91090-baseline e-91090-overflow-wrap-anywhere encore-internal-color-text-announcement e-91090-text-link--use-focus sc-fqujGp dQOGun\" data-encore-id=\"textLink\" data-slate-node=\"element\" data-slate-inline=\"true\"\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-node=\"text\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-leaf=\"true\" class=\"sc-gbwXoZ cetDdh\"\u003e\u003cspan data-slate-string=\"true\"\u003eJeffrey Morgenthaler\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/span\u003e\u003cspan\u003e⁠\u003c\/span\u003e\u003c\/a\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e\n\u003cp class=\"e-91090-text encore-text-body-medium\" data-encore-id=\"text\" data-slate-node=\"element\"\u003e\u003cspan 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